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|UKMD| killers
Thu Sep 18 08, 09:43AM
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How about RTV where you need at least (for example) 90% of the vote and then an admin to accept the decision?

That could work, so players feel they have the option there, but then admins can stop it becoming one sided and having only dust maps play. Don't know if this is fully implementable but could be worth a look I think.


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Thu Sep 18 08, 06:27PM

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I dont mean to be rude, And i do agree that having Dust2 , Dust2 unlimited and Dust MX is far to much sand for my liking, and the 2 map voting means that Dust is on far to much.

BUT im sure Moggie would help if you gave him some suggestions of other maps, but be aware that the origianl maps cant be used due to the servers size there are not enough spawn points.

On another note, only bawbags like Glass, if thats on, im off!


I agree if you want a map, then it needs the spawn points. But if you like the map that much, then get 'entspy' link and read a good tutorial on how to add spawn points like this one link and then voila you can make any map ukmd compatible. This is how i learnt to do it, which in turn gave us de_pasdequartier which unfortunately has disappeared and been replaced with dust dust and more dust


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Thu Sep 18 08, 10:43PM
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blatant bump

cmon moggs, comment here please. even if it is to tell us to stfu.

us css noobs are not feeling the love(we dont want to feel Evils marrow)

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|UKMD| OuTLaW
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rtv votes is not a bad idea as killer suggested, agree not having mx glass on rotation, would like to see more dust though.............



ONLY JOKIN, we've been playin so much of dust that its messin around with my dreams, would like to see maps like aztec, cs_estate_source and cs_parkhouse (played these two on another server). New maps maybe but obviously still keep dust on rotation (maybe not all 3 of them) so that all the addicts don't suffer
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Fri Sep 19 08, 12:03AM
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will be working on a ukmd aztec as soon as i finish my tf2 map
i still think the best thing in this thread are the links posted by dunk and dec for the dynamic rotation.
also i was thinking if we do end up with a fixed rotation then we hav a vote after the first couple of rounds something like:
change map?
1.im a nub
2.yes
3.no
that way if the majority think the map is unsuitable it can be changed wen it first comes on.
The biggest problem i see atm and what makes me think the server needs a little TLC is the huge maps being played by 10-20 people (so much running ahhh) and also the very long map times on some maps. I also think the maps lack variety and on that note im now off to look for some suitable ones to add.
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Fri Sep 19 08, 02:27PM
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those, some i have tested, some i still cant find the ones im looking for.
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|UKMD| killers
Fri Sep 19 08, 02:54PM
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That kismayo map is huge and would be quite fun on the main server.

I used to play it on a 22 man server and that was pretty good but you could get lost with so few players.

cpl_mill is a great map and I reckon would be good fun with a full server.

We need a losttemple map on the server, they are all great.

Some great finds there Gus, well in dude


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Gus
Fri Sep 19 08, 03:18PM
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ah yea, u may notice that some dont hav enough spawn points. Im more than happy to rip them apart and put more in if they arent protected or using entspy we can put more in.

i forgot to add contra link

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|UKMD| Eðen
Fri Sep 19 08, 04:51PM

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i dont mind helping out with adding spawn points as well, just let me know if you want a shared workload. Tho if you want all the glory for urself i dont mind


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Fri Sep 19 08, 05:43PM
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lol thats if moggie ever replies to the thread and makes some changes
I dont mind doin a couple but if he decides to put a lot more into rotation i would definitely appreciate the help eden
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|UKMD| Eðen
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we should all pm him with a link to the thread, if he got about 5+ spam pm's about it he may notice


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Fri Sep 19 08, 08:34PM
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bumped

at the risk of becoming an arse, but i intend to bump it till we hear from moggs
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|UKMD| killers
Fri Sep 19 08, 09:48PM
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Bump, in the same vain as Dunk


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Fri Sep 19 08, 10:15PM
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Big server:
mapchoice:
Dust
Nightfever
Extend Dust unlimited

People are leaving...


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bumped

at the risk of becoming an arse, but i intend to bump it till we hear from moggs
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|UKMD| OuTLaW
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do you know what, thats exactly whats happening as broedar stated. Good 7-8 months ago when i use to get on at night on the main server it use to be buzzin, loads of players pawning each other havin a laugh but these days the server is dead. we need to change maps around, get new maps otherwise we'll see fewer players playing on these servers.
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Stu FATE
Fri Sep 19 08, 11:40PM

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My suggestion to this are :

Map times, reduce to 20-30 mins (hey 25 to keep everyone happy)
Maps rotation separate the currently heavily used maps by new/newer ones
Use the cool plug ins regarding volume of players etc
When the vote comes up put something like the following:

1. Let an admin choose the next map (if no admin on let server do it)
2. Extend for 10 minutes (could even do a whole team swap sides thingy?
3. New/newer map
4, Heavily used map
5. I don't care I just wanna kill some noobs


As for what maps to put on, I'll leave that to those who know what they're doing but PLEASE don't put that dark map where everyone gets lost on again please !!


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Fri Sep 19 08, 11:45PM
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I think the issue is, we often get a rotation of -

de_dust2_unlimited
mx_glass
de_dust2
de_dust2_unlimited
de_desert_atrocity (if we're lucky)
de_dust2_unlimited
and so on.

It is just ridiculous people are starting to get pissed off.

Obviously Moggie has other commitments, but a response would be appreciated either way.
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Gus
Sat Sep 20 08, 01:09AM
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yesh it is getting rather tedius. I think tf2 has taken priority for the moment which is fully understandable, the tf2 community is massive compared with just a month or so ago and the server are filling regularly now.
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|UKMD| Lamb++
Sat Sep 20 08, 02:09AM
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i like the idea behind glass, a fun map for a short time to give a break from all the standard stuff.

i do think the maps are too long atm and sometimes impractical dust_ukmd, and dust unlim which are great when there are quite a few ppl on, become really frustrating when there aren't as many.

there also don't seem to be enough maps, 3 dusts, atrocity, nightfever, office unlim and glass (tho this is just an interlude really). I think nades showed pretty clearly that everyone doesn't agree on what makes them leave, glass is a map he doesn't like, but lots of ppl really like. As its so short, its easier to stick it out too, when you have to wait an hour for another map you like it isn't worth sticking around.

The massive focus on TF2 has to be partially responsible for the drop off on the main server tho. Recently I've been coming on and there are only about 20ppl on in the evening (tho yday and the day befores fight night were full.

shorter map times + a couple of short (maybe even just 10min) fun maps would really help i think.


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I agree with what everyone has said about the need for more maps and also the need for more voting choices at map vote time (2 isn't enough imo).

As for the time thing 40 mins sounds about the top end for any map with glass's time being about right how it is now.

The variety on the main server was one of the big attractions for me when I wasn't UKMD and I'd really love to see some of the maps make a come back (italys) as well as some new ones (kismayo and de_spirits to name a few).

If this does get some attention then it'd be really great if instead of a fight night we had a map test night to see which maps are playable on the main server?

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i'm still not bored of pl_badwater



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|UKMDl safari jim wrote ...

i'm still not bored of pl_badwater


Thats nice


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Sat Sep 20 08, 01:21PM
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|UKMDl safari jim wrote ...

i'm still not bored of pl_badwater


pleased for you jim, but cant every recall that being on the css rotation???

edited after some much needed guidance from CAWA>
cheers Phil, sometimes i need to reign in my emotions, but its only coz I care about things that I keep this kind of shit going.

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Sat Sep 20 08, 02:58PM
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yea im gunna go cry in a corner cos moggie doesnt care about us

(guilt trip ftw)
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|UKMD |Dougal
Sat Sep 20 08, 04:14PM
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unfortunately i think its hard for moggie to work on css as he loves tf2 so much. It may mean that we need to elect ana admin to be in charge of the css servers.

could tf2 be the death of ukmd css?


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|UKMD| killers
Sat Sep 20 08, 04:31PM
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I think Dougal may actually have hit the nail right on the noggin tbh.

Like Dunk said in-game, the CSS side of UKMD has wilted in recent times and there isn't as much of a community as there once was. It is a huge shame considering how many great guys and gals play on the servers and frequent the website, but I can see this being a big issue that UKMD may not be able to climb.


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nice suggestion, unfortunately its been made and moggie is reluctant to give people the ability to change map. i understand if not done properly, it can crash the server so I understand his reluctance.
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Sat Sep 20 08, 05:27PM
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Sat Sep 20 08, 10:00PM
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br-br-br-bringing it back
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|UKMD|Alex
Sat Sep 20 08, 10:40PM
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I'd just like to add that I wouldn't mind seeing Piranesi make a comeback!


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Sun Sep 21 08, 02:01AM
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amen
also theres a map called dustinesi which is half dd2 half paranesi, its pretty cool, cant remember if it played well but who cares with 60 nobbs running about
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we seem to be getting ahead of ourselves here by suggesting new maps.

we need a response from Moggie so lets calm down on the new suggestions.

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ah i see now cmon lets be having you


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Tue Sep 23 08, 08:06PM
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oops

bumped into this lonely auld thread that needs some input
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i second that bump


we want change NOW


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Moggie, you may of noticed has been extremely busy at work, isnt answering anyone or even playing the games he has poured so much of his time and money into. I'm locking this thread now.


EDIT.... Thread locked for Moggie to catch up.

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